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 Post subject: Slider response time
PostPosted:Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:41 pm 
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Hi everyone,
Sorry, I am complaining again but, is there a trick to have a slider response time of less than 6.5 MINUTES in the Coloring tab?

Thanks
Pierre Dore


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 Post subject: Re: Slider response time
PostPosted:Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:16 am 
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No problem, complaining is the language of the internet :D

But, when you actually expect helpful tips, you should give some context information.

Otherwise you will get an answer like: buy a faster computer. I guess this would not what you expect.

Cheers!


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 Post subject: Re: Slider response time
PostPosted:Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:06 pm 
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:D
Everytime I select a flame and try to adjust the coloring, if change a setting I loose control of the program for at least 6 to 15 minutes.

To my knowledge, this does not happen in the others tab.

I hope I have covered everything. Sorry, could not attach a file.

Oh! I know, I need a faster computer. :lol: :lol:

Device name DESKTOP-UAGT6N6
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700 CPU @ 3.40GHz 3.41 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB
Device ID 002C64D6-3C52-4585-81D8-1A855ED5D38D
Product ID 00342-50420-14445-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch Pen support

Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 20H2
Installed on ΓÇÄ2020-ΓÇÄ08-ΓÇÄ20
OS build 19042.867
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.551.0

Operating system: Windows 10
Available processors: 8 cores
Java version: 1.8.0_281
Maximum memory: 14.2 GB
Free memory (approximated): 14.2 GB
Press the [Clear cache]-button to free any resources (images, meshes, fonts, ...) which are currently hold in memory in order to speed up future calculations.


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ui.scale=1


#JWildfire script properties
#Wed Mar 31 23:37:19 EDT 2021


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 Post subject: Re: Slider response time
PostPosted:Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:12 pm 
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From your system specs this behaviour sounds very unuasual.

In fact, many of the color-adjustments should be faster than other adjustments, because they are using a cache.

Maybe has to do with hardware acceleration. You might try the solution posted in the topmost discussion at: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1445310/discussions/
(which will also be included in the upcoming manual)

I guess you are not using a resolution higher than 4k?


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 Post subject: Re: Slider response time
PostPosted:Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:11 pm 
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This is getting frustrating, I can't find JWildfire.cfg on my computer.
I made a search on both C & D drives.
I am not operating under STEAM.
JWildfire is on the D:
Should I install Steam on C: and reinstall JWildfire there?
Or..........................???????


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 Post subject: Re: Slider response time
PostPosted:Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:16 am 
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Since the Windows version doesn't have the config file, I installed Steam and bought Jwildfire.
Tried it with the same results so, I found the file in question and added the first parameter.
Rebooted,re_started Jwildfire same results.
Changed the parameter for the second, re-booted,re_started Jwildfire same results.

Now I am stocked with two inadequately working versions.

The positive thing: the Steam version UI is larger :)


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 Post subject: Re: Slider response time
PostPosted:Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:26 am 
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a) please note that it is not intended to have you buy the software because you don't find the JWildfire.cfg. If you do feel like this, please note me, I will send you back your money.

b) the problem you have sounds very strange and I never heard about it before.
Yes, some users have slooow machines, but not this kind.
So there are no known solutions (yet).

At which resolution do you work with the application? Is there anything special you may think of?


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 Post subject: Re: Slider response time
PostPosted:Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:42 pm 
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I work at 1024 x 1024 pixels.

I tried all the tabs that were on for the type of flame loaded and had the computer freeze in the channel mixer tab.

I will try on my laptop, maybe it will work?

As for buying Jwildfire it was MY decision I had no intension to request a refund. Furthermore it was a solution to try. So thanks for the offer but refund NOT NEEDED.

Going to install on my laptop


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 Post subject: Re: Slider response time
PostPosted:Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:33 pm 
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It is working on my laptop so, it is my desktop computer that causes the problem.

You do not have to find a solution, it is not a bug in Jwildfire

Many thanks for helping me


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 Post subject: Re: Slider response time
PostPosted:Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:22 pm 
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ok, thanks for letting me know that it is way of resolved now.

As a side note: the channel mixer is indeed a computation-heavy operation (in comparison to other parameters). It is not a classical LUT operation because it operates on the raw image data. It may make sense to optimize it in the future.


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